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https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/17/documents/presentations/jul2001/bdh_adp_01.pdf
. – Full Topology » In USB, IEEE 1394, and Fiber Channel the master station knows the full topology of the bus 13Making Global Networks Workbdh_adp_01.pdf Capability Knowledge How much does each node know of the capabilities (such as the link rate) of the other members of the Ring?
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Documents/DocumentArchives/2000_docs/01347E-Minutes-of-TGe-Teleconference-06-22.pdf
We are also looking at a 1394 traffic model (low quality video model).
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Documents/DocumentArchives/1999_docs/90548S-WPAN-HomeRF-Tutorial-Office-97.pdf
Research liReady Systems lKansai Denki lLG Electronics lMatsushita Electronics lMatsushita Works lMicrosoft lMitsubishi lMotorola lNational Semiconductor lNEC Corporation lNortel lOki lOsitis Software ® Intel’s Labs9 SWAP Product Development l Butterfly Communications l Compaq l Hewlett-Packard l IBM l Intel l iReady l Microsoft l Motorola l Proxim l OTC Telecom l RF Monolithics l Samsung l Symbionics The following member companies are developing SWAP products: ® Intel’s Labs10 Enabling the Vision PrinterCamera Game Pad USB Stereo Camcorder VCR TV Multimedia (e.g. 1394) Grandma’s Brownies 3 cups flour 1 cup grated chocolate 1 cup sugar 1 stick butter HomeRF SWAP Control Point HomePNA Phone Cable 1394 ® Intel’s Labs11 The SWAP Network Other Home Networks (HPNA,phone,AC) TCP/IP Based Network of Asynchronous Peer-Peer Devices Main Home PC ?
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/PARs/2009-07/11-09-0678-00-000n-2009-tgn-par-extension-request.doc
print:1394 1 of 2 9/12/2003 1:10 PM PAR FORM PAR Status: Amendment of Standard PAR Approval Date: 2003-09-11 PAR Signature Page on File: Yes Review of Standards Development Process: No 1.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/power_study/email/msg00698.html
I know that 1394 has another focus but putting a CAT-5 network is somewhat easier than planning a flexible 1394 network (in Europe we don´t have phone nets like in the US).
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00078.html
. >> >> The DTV/audio "clusters" will likely be connected together with 1394, >> but >> the bridges between 1394 and 802.3+ will have queues as well, so that >> doesn't reduce the need for queue management. >>
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/hssg/public/sept07/gustlin_02_0907.pdf
Average skew is 2.3 bits, maximal skew is 5.6 bits. 15 Stage 2 - Long Simulation, Setup A Simulations length: 1012 bits, 10 seconds 10 input and output Electrical media, 4 optical Skew: None in electrical media Max skew in optical: 5 bits (latencies in bit-time: 1, 2, 4, 6) Input scenarios: Random input All ones input All ones input, scrambler seed randomized every 6x106 bits (every 60µs, total 185649 times) 16 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 0.09 1 5 9 13 17 21 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 53 57 61 65 69 73 77 81 85 89 93 97 101 105 109 113 117 121 125 scrambler Electrical media optical media Random Input (128b window) 1548(-1534)41Max (min) 1514-151039Scrambler 1418-129637Rx EM 9 1466-131636Rx EM 8 1396-135038Rx EM 7 1354-153439Rx EM 6 1314-130835Rx EM 5 1434-132636Rx EM 4 1476-134437Rx EM 3 1412-137235Rx EM 2 1374-138436Rx EM 1 1374-139837Rx EM 0 1402-141841Optical 3 1548-146636Optical 2 1410-144437Optical1 1454-144437Optical 0 1396-135036Tx EM 9 1332-136435Tx EM 8 1312-130835Tx EM 7 1366-141833Tx EM 6 1476-134437Tx EM 5 1348-137235Tx EM 4 1374-138235Tx EM 3 1444-139435Tx EM 2 1418-129638Tx EM 1 1424-144035Tx EM 0 Max running disparity Min running disparity Max run length 17 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 0.09 1 5 9 13 17 21 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 53 57 61 65 69 73 77 81 85 89 93 97 101 105 109 113 117 121 125 scrambler Electrical media optical media All Ones Input (128b window) 1934(-1460)43Max (min) 1934-128443Scrambler 1400-133439Rx EM 9 1368-137840Rx EM 8 1390-140840Rx EM 7 1318-142837Rx EM 6 1390-130237Rx EM 5 1398-143837Rx EM 4 1494-139438Rx EM 3 1438-134437Rx EM 2 1370-140435Rx EM 1 1398-135039Rx EM 0 1468-136236Optical 3 1482-138440Optical 2 1466-140837Optical1 1502-146040Optical 0 1390-140842Tx EM 9 1336-142237Tx EM 8 1390-129837Tx EM 7 1410-132034Tx EM 6 1494-139437Tx EM 5 1394-132836Tx EM 4 1368-140436Tx EM 3 1428-133435Tx EM 2 1400-133439Tx EM 1 1358-137436Tx EM 0 Max running disparity Min running disparity Max run length 18 Stage 3 - Long Simulation, Setup B Simulations length: 1012 bits, 10 seconds 4 transmit and receive electrical media, 2 optical Possible future evolution Skew: None in electrical media Skew in optical: 7 bits (latencies in bit-time: 1, 8) Input scenarios: Random input All ones input 19 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 1 6 11 16 21 26 31 36 41 46 51 56 61 66 71 76 81 86 91 96 101 106 111 116 121 126 InEM0 Optic0 OutEM0 Scrambler Electrical Scrambler Optic Random Input 1468(-1602)51Max (min) 1446-160240Scrambler 1414-137242Rx EM 3 1468-142238Rx EM 2 1424-140438Rx EM 1 1400-136836Rx EM 0 1412-142043Optical1 1438-142851Optical 0 1414-137242Tx EM 3 1400-136836Tx EM 2 1424-140438Tx EM 1 1468-142238Tx EM 0 Max running disparity Min running disparity Max run length 20 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 1 6 11 16 21 26 31 36 41 46 51 56 61 66 71 76 81 86 91 96 101 106 111 116 121 126 InEM1 Optical1 OutEM2 Scrambler Electrical Scrambler Optic All Ones Input
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Documents/DocumentArchives/2000_docs/02528E-Philips'%20OPNET%20Model%20Implementation.doc
Task Assignment From the earlier IEEE 802.11 TGe simulation ad hoc group meeting, Philips was assigned the following tasks in the OPNET 802.11 Wireless LAN model enhancement: · Adding PLCP preamble and header · Adding PHY layer delays such as CCA delay and Rx-Tx turnaround time · Modelling IEEE 802.11a PHY · Adding the interface to IEEE 1394 2.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/2003/May03/03185r0P802-15_WG-Minutes-from-Dallas-May16.doc
The project will be taken to the 1394 TA board for approval in July. 8:34 Glyn Roberts discussed the closing report for the PC committee (IEEE802.15-03/189r2) 8:38 Karaoguz reported on 802.11g.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00073.html
. > > The DTV/audio "clusters" will likely be connected together with 1394, but > the bridges between 1394 and 802.3+ will have queues as well, so that > doesn't reduce the need for queue management. > > Hmm.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1722/contributions/2007/avbtp-bartky-encapsulation-v0-09-2007-11-27.pdf
(see 802.1AS assumptions from AVB document)). • 61883 format over AVBTP will support presentation time using AVBTP timestamp field instead of current 61883 SYT field – 1394/61883 to 1722/61883 gateways will have to take care of all SYT to AVBTP timestamp conversions, synchronization, cross timestamps, etc. – Editor’s note: Need to work out SYT field for SPH = 1 packets as timestamps are on a per source packet basis (MPEG packet) instead of in the CIP header. • AVBTP 61883 presentation time shall be relative to the 802.1AS clock • Adapt 1394 AV/C Function Control Protocol (FCP) for use in 61883 over AVBTP. • Proprietary encapsulations allowed via reserved subtype (7F16) • Allow for other future expansions via different subtypes.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/secmail/msg00396.html
I assume these have been handled already, since 1394 uses a 64-bit address space.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1722/contributions/2007/avbtp-bartky-encapsulation-v0-07-2007-10-04.pdf
• AVBTP 61883 presentation time shall be relative to the 802.1AS clock – Adapt 1394 AV/C Function Control Protocol (FCP) for use in 61883 over AVBTP. – Allow for Proprietary encapsulations via different subtype – Allow for other future expansions via different subtypes.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/email/stds-802-11-tgbf/msg02212.html
I ’ ve uploaded the received comments to mentor:  https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1394-00-00bf-lb276-comments-and-approved-resolutions.xlsx A few action items: PoCs : Please review the comments that I have tentatively assigned to your area, and let me know if you any changes are needed.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/power_study/email/msg00884.html
Several years ago we had a similar experience with the IEEE 1394 and USB specifications.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00276.html
Simple light weight encoders that compress 9 or 10 to one have been suggested to allow this content to then be sent to a remote device over 1394 or other networks.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/minutes/jul22/0722_maint_open_report.pdf
Clause Subject Action 1394 98.2.1 Clause 98 HSM support “Ready for ballot” 1395 147.8 Mixing segment specifications “Ready for ballot” 1396 147.8 Mixing segment specifications “Ready for ballot” 1397 1.4.473 Definition of “PoDL PSE” Suggested modification to proposed change https://www.ieee802.org/3/maint/requests/maint_1394.pdf https://www.ieee802.org/3/maint/requests/maint_1395.pdf https://www.ieee802.org/3/maint/requests/maint_1396.pdf https://www.ieee802.org/3/maint/requests/maint_1397.pdf IEEE P802.3 Maintenance report – July 2008 PlenaryVersion 1.0 IEEE P802.3 (IEEE 802.3dc) ballot results July 2022 (r0) IEEE 802.3 Maintenance Task Force 5 • D3.0 initial SA ballot (opened 1 December 2021, closed 31 December 2021) • D3.1 1st SA recirc. ballot (opened 15 February 2022, closed 2 March 2022) • D3.2 2nd SA recirc. ballot (opened 15 March 2022, closed 30 March 2022) D3.0 D3.1 D3.2 Count % Status Count % Status Count % Status Actual Req’d Actual Req’d Actual Req’d Abstain 3 2 < 30 PASS 3 2 < 30 PASS 3 2 < 30 PASS Disapprove 10 - - - 4 - - - 2 - - - Disapprove w/o comment 0 - - - 0 - - - 0 - - - Approve 92 90 > 75 PASS 108 96 > 75 PASS 111 98 > 75 PASS Ballots returned 105 77 > 75 PASS 115 84 > 75 PASS 116 85 > 75 PASS Voters 136 - - - 136 - - - 136 - - - Comments 110 - - - 20 - - - 1 - - - IEEE P802.3 Maintenance report – July 2008 PlenaryVersion 1.0 Revision project status July 2022 (r0) IEEE 802.3 Maintenance Task Force 6 IEEE Std 802.3-2022 was approved by the IEEE SA Standards Board on 13 May 2022!!!
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/17/email/msg02336.html
RBR includes features appropriate for the > low-latency > backplane environment: destination-based flow control, low-power > short-haul > PHY, backplane-to-backplane links, transport of IEEE-1394 isochronous > data, > and support of IEEE-1596 memory-update operations." > > Background material includes: > http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/msc/MSC200404/RbrSlides2004Mar31.pdf > http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/msc/MSC200401/RprBackplane.pdf > > Items on the agenda include: > 1) Formulation of email reflector lists. > 2) Review of approved PAR. > 3) Sollicitation of technical inputs and strawman proposals. > 4) Discussion of related activities. > 5) Future meeting schedule. > 6) Other items as requested. > > In particular, this is an opportunity to suggest directions, revisions > of the slides and objectives, and/or strawman proposals.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/2005/15-05-0329-00-003c-minutes-1st-conference-call-tg3c-technical-requirements-sub-committee.doc
- 649 15 Wireless Gigabit Ethernet applications - · LOS · Data Rate:1.25 Gbps duplex · Range: ~ 6 m 653 16 · Replacement for 1394 FireWire · Replacement for USB · Military – future combat systems, secure communication - · LOS and NLOS (people) · 100 to 500 Mbps link, 1 Gbps in 2007 · Short range 665 Submission Page D.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/msg00981.html
The relevant standards include: >> >>           CSMA/CD (IEEE 802.3, ISO 8802-3) >>           Token Bus (IEEE 802.4, ISO 8802-4) >> >>           Token Ring (IEEE 802.5, ISO/IEC 8802-5) >> >>           IEEE 802.6 (ISO/IEC DIS 8802-6) FDDI (ISO 9314-2) >> >>           WLAN (IEEE 802.11, ISO/IEC 8802-11) >>       B) >>           The 'company_id' relevant standards include: defined >> in IEEE Std >>       1212-1991 Control and Status Register (CSR) Architecture referenced >>       by IEEE Std 896.2-1991 Futurebus+Physical Layers and Profiles >>           IEEE Std 1596-1992 Scalable Coherent Interface >>           IEEE Std 1394-1995 Serial Bus document.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/msg00356.html
The distinction between standards is getting fuzzy: 1394 over CAT-5, security over multiple transports, multiple transports over the same PHYs.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00008.html
Your may also want to read IEEE 1394, which (some of us feel) should be useful for background and is also highly desirable to support in a reasonably transparent-to-traffic fashion.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/msg00971.html
Its good for 802 and its good for 1394.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Documents/DocumentArchives/2000_docs/01347E-Minutes-of-TGe-Teleconference-06-22.doc
We are also looking at a 1394 traffic model (low quality video model).
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/03/15-03-0523-00-0030-tg3-minutes-from-november-2003-doc.doc
It was noted that meshing also needs “hand over”. 11:42 Peter Johansson presented new MAC primitives for Synchronization support for 1394 or any time sync’ed protocol adaptation (document 03-0444-00-0030).