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https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/public/200509/SyncSildes2005Jul08.pdf
SyncSildes2005Jul08.ppt IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 1July 2005 Clock synchronizationClock synchronization (a Residential Ethernet SG presentation)(a Residential Ethernet SG presentation) David V JamesDavid V James JGGJGG Alexei Alexei BeliaevBeliaev GibsonGibson George George ClasemanClaseman MicrelMicrel IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 2July 2005 House reference clockHouse reference clock 802.11e Ethernet 802.11e 1394 1394 Room #1 Room #2 Ethernet IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 3July 2005 FIFO Precise time synchronizationPrecise time synchronization talker FIFO IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 4July 2005 Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Wall-clock distribution model IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 5July 2005 Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Cascaded adjacent-synchronization hierarchy Legend: clock master clock slave IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 6July 2005 Grand master selectionGrand master selection Grand-master selection protocol MinimumValue hopsCount += 1thisPrecedence MinimumValue hopsCount += 1thisPrecedence Grand-master Clock-slave IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 7July 2005 sn Grand-master precedenceGrand-master precedence stationID (byte swapped EUI-64) 1394 precedencepreferred 1394 precedence (larger) sl eui64 hops pnpl transmitted values portsystem uniqueness age GM precedence (smaller) snsl eui48 hops pnpl portsystem uniqueness age STP precedence (smaller) IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 8July 2005 local offset add global Basic snapshot assumptionsBasic snapshot assumptions aTx local offset add global aRx bRx bTx StationA StationB – Periodic distribution (10 ms) • Simple non-time-critical processing • Master/slave independence – Pipelined computation • Enables SW-centric implementations IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 9July 2005 Adjustable Adjustable timeOfDaytimeOfDay timer timer fractionsseconds delayed carry OK addition subfractions carry56 subfractions fractions flexRate flexTimer fractionsseconds addition64 timeOfDay flexOffset IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 10July 2005 local offset add global Adjacent-station synchronizationAdjacent-station synchronization aTx local offset add global aRx bRx bTx (aTx,aRx,bTx) StationA StationB Snapshot value distribution (information for stationB) IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 11July 2005 local offset add global Adjacent-station synchronizationAdjacent-station synchronization aTx local offset add global aRx bRx bTx(bTx,bRx,aTx) Station A Station B Snapshot value distribution (information for stationA) IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 12July 2005 local offset add global Adjacent-station synchronizationAdjacent-station synchronization • rxDelta = (bRx – aTx); • txDelta = (bTx – aRx); • clockDelta = (txDelta – rxDelta) / 2; • cableDelay = (txDelta + rxDelta) / 2; • offsetB = offsetA + clockDelta; aTx local offset add global aRx bRx bTx Station A Station B StationB offset adjustments IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 13July 2005 rxInfo Clock slave details (1)Clock slave details (1) Rx Tx StationB rxInfo txInfo txInfo cycle[n-1] cycle[n-0] IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 14July 2005 Clock-slave details (2)Clock-slave details (2) cycle[n-1] cycle[n-0] TX RX header offsetTime myRxTimer thisTxTime thatRxTime thatTxTime trailer header offsetB myTxTimer thisTxTime thatTxTime thatRxTime trailer header offsetB myTxTimer thisTxTime thatRxTime thatTxTime trailer header offsetTime myRxTimer thisTxTime thatRxTime thatTxTime trailer rxDeltasubtract txDelta subtract + − globalTimer.offset + − addition 1/2 myOffset IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 15July 2005 Rate-calibration timerRate-calibration timer fractions addition subfractions subfractions fractions baseRate baseTimer IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 16July 2005 local add global Adjacent-station synchronizationAdjacent-station synchronization • aDelta = (localA[n+1] – localA[n+0]); • bDelta = (localB[n+1] – localB[n+0]); • diffRate = (bDelta – aDelta) / aDelta; txR local offset add global Station A Station B StationB rate adjustments offset IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 17July 2005 Timing specificsTiming specifics…… (from IEEE 1588-2002, subclause D.1.1, page 127) IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Francisco 18July 2005 A viable design modelA viable design model PHY global local offset MAC clientglobalTime rxStrobe txStrobe txrx FIFOFIFO convert Notes: Rate matching FIFOs are not within our scope.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/17/documents/presentations/sep2001/draft_lbr_swis_02.pdf
Draft Standard for IEEE Template TA Document LARA-16-1-T-Nov00/0.40:2, July 11, 2000 Page 8 Copyright  2001, 1394 Trade Association.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1722/contributions/2007/avbtp-bartky-assumptions-v0-05-2007-11-27.pdf
No control/discovery/etc. o i.e. we keep within our own layer  Goal: Keep the protocol simple and close enough to 61883 that bridging to/from the most common forms of 1394 isochronous streams is a straight-forward problem that can easily be done in hardware. oPotential issue with complexity of timestamp mapping between 1394 and Ethernet.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1722/contributions/2007/avbtp-bartky-assumptions-cb-v0-05-2007-11-27.pdf
No control/discovery/etc. o i.e. we keep within our own layer  Goal: Keep the protocol simple and close enough to 61883 that bridging to/from the most common forms of 1394 isochronous streams is a straight-forward problem that can easily be done in hardware. o Potential issue with complexity of timestamp mapping between 1394 and Ethernet.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/2004/15-04-0511-05-003a-consolidation-questions-responses-no-vote-explanations.doc
4: will DS-UWB products based on 1394 have the 1394 logo so that consumer experience can be “exceedingly easy”?
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/04/15-04-0511-05-003a-consolidation-questions-responses-no-vote-explanations.doc
4: will DS-UWB products based on 1394 have the 1394 logo so that consumer experience can be “exceedingly easy”?
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/material/200510-1588conf/Precise-Timing-in-a-Residential-Ethernet-Environment.pdf
–Professional A/V studios –Homes with provider 1588 service October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 17 Changes needed in existingChanges needed in existing productsproducts • Endpoint device needs – Timer – Streaming traffic transmit FIFO(s) • (streaming receive use existing FIFO) – Best to have dedicated ports for streaming data • MPEG-TS, I2S, etc., like existing 1394 links • Bridges – ResE MACs – Streaming routing/filtering • similar to asynch logic – Admission control firmware • similar to 802.1 multicast and VLAN management – Timing propagation Timing SynchronizationTiming Synchronization in ResEin ResE October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 19 House reference clockHouse reference clock 802.11e Ethernet 802.11e 1394 1394 Room #1 Room #2 Ethernet October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 20 Legend: clock master clock slave Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Physical topology constraints October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 21 Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Wall-clock distribution model October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 22 Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Cascaded adjacent-synchronization hierarchy October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 23 local offset add global Adjacent-stationAdjacent-station synchronizationsynchronization aTx[n] local offset add global aRx[n] bRx[n] bTx[n] Station A Station B Timing snapshots October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 24 local offset add global Adjacent-stationAdjacent-station synchronizationsynchronization aTx[n-1] local offset add global aRx[n-1] bRx[n] bTx[n-2] (aTx,aRx,bTx) StationA StationB Snapshot value distribution (information for stationB is time A sent previous snapshot, time A received B’s previous snapshot, and time B sent snapshot before that) Transmit timings are always for previous snapshot because they are recorded when the snapshot was sent, and are not available while the packet is in the process of being sent October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 25 local offset add global Adjacent-stationAdjacent-station synchronizationsynchronization • rxDelta = (bRx[n-1] – aTx[n-1]); • txDelta = (bTx[n-1] – aRx[n-1]); • clockDelta = (rxDelta – txDelta) / 2; • cableDelay = (rxDelta + txDelta) / 2; • offsetB = offsetA – clockDelta; aTx local offset add global aRx bRx bTx Station A Station B StationB offset adjustments October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 26 local offset add global Adjacent stationAdjacent station synchronizationsynchronization local offset add global Station A Station B 1kHz/100Hz synch interval … 1ms - 10ms … clockSync October 12, 2005 Precise Timing in a Residential Ethernet Environment 27 • Could add to 802.3 PHY specs: (from IEEE 1588-2002, subclause D.1.1, page 127) • But realistically, more likely to get “when first data symbol of frame is transmitted to or received from PHY” –Less precise … but ResE has frequent clock updat
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/docizl4UcjipF.doc
The former is used for standards, such as IEEE Std 1394 or IEEE Std 802, that have a standard identifier that starts with a numeral; the latter is used for standards, such as IEEE Std C37 or IEEE Std C57, where the standard identifier starts with the letter “C”.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/docMdG9Qz0CF1.doc
The former is used for standards, such as IEEE Std 1394 or IEEE Std 802, that have a standard identifier that starts with a numeral; the latter is used for standards, such as IEEE Std C37 or IEEE Std C57, where the standard identifier starts with the letter “C”.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/doc00125.doc
The former is used for standards, such as IEEE Std 1394 or IEEE Std 802, that have a standard identifier that starts with a numeral; the latter is used for standards, such as IEEE Std C37 or IEEE Std C57, where the standard identifier starts with the letter “C”.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/doc00110.doc
The former is used for standards, such as IEEE Std 1394 or IEEE Std 802, that have a standard identifier that starts with a numeral; the latter is used for standards, such as IEEE Std C37 or IEEE Std C57, where the standard identifier starts with the letter “C”.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/rtfYmtPHtVete.rtf
That is, IEEE Std 1394 would be identified by: iso (1) iso-identified-organization (3) ieee (111) standards-association-numbered-series-standards (2) std-1394 (1394) and IEEE Std C37 would be identified by: iso (1) iso-identified-organization (3) ieee (111) standards-association-c-series-standards (3) std-c37 (37) For standards that have multiple parts or sub-standards, such as the 802 series and the C37 series, would be allocated an arc of the form: iso (1) iso-identified-organization (3) ieee (111) standards-association-numbered-series-standards (2) lan-man-stds (802) part5-to
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/docyKsUEU5jlV.doc
The former is used for standards, such as IEEE Std 1394 or IEEE Std 802, that have a standard identifier that starts with a numeral; the latter is used for standards, such as IEEE Std C37 or IEEE Std C57, where the standard identifier starts with the letter “C”.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/pdf00119.pdf
That is, IEEE Std 1394 would be identified by: iso (1) iso-identified-organization (3) ieee (111) standards-association-numbered-series-standards (2) std-1394 (1394) 1 For example, the OUI registry will likely contain the OUI value in the next arc, followed by arcs for the name, address, etc. of the assignee, plus any other relevant attributes such as whether the entry is publicly available.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/public/200501/beliaev_1_0105.pdf
IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 18January 2005 House reference clockHouse reference clock 802.11e Ethernet 802.11e 1394 1394 Room #1 Room #2 Ethernet IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 19January 2005 Legend: clock master clock slave Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Physical topology constraints IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 20January 2005 Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Wall-clock distribution model IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 21January 2005 Cascaded TOD synchronizationCascaded TOD synchronization bridge[0] bridge[1] bridge[2] Cascaded adjacent-synchronization hierarchy IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 22January 2005 TimeTime--ofof--day format optionsday format options fractionsseconds nanosecondsseconds >150 years <250 ps OR OR (…) ticks OR 16 ns IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 23January 2005 TimeTime--ofof--day rate adjustmentsday rate adjustments fractionsseconds delayed carry add6 add26 rate carry56 rate IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 24January 2005 systemID portNumbsp TimeTime--ofof--day precedenceday precedence stationID (byte swapped EUI-64) 1394 precedence preferred stationID (MAC-48) 802.3 STP precedence (IEEE Std 802.3D-1998) pp larger smaller IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Vancouver 25January 2005 Synchronized timeSynchronized time--ofof--day clocksday clocks Why?
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/public/200411/james_1_1104.pdf
Are we legislating crystal frequencies (no). 3 IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Antonio 3November 2004 House reference clockHouse reference clock 802.11e Ethernet 802.11e 1394 1394 Room #1 Room #2 Ethernet In support of synchronous transfers, all RE devices are assumed to have the same impression of time.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/power_study/public/nov99/minutes_1199.pdf
IEEE 1394 to be added to the Liaison List in the PAR; 3).
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00072.html
. > > The DTV/audio "clusters" will likely be connected together with 1394, but > the bridges between 1394 and 802.3+ will have queues as well, so that > doesn't reduce the need for queue management. > > Hmm.
https://grouper.ieee.org/rac/private/email/doc00100.doc
That is, IEEE Std 1394 would be identified by: iso (1) iso-identified-organization (3) ieee (111) standards-association (n) std-1394 (1394) Standards that have multiple parts or sub-standards, such as the 802 series would be of the form: iso (1) iso-identified-organization (3) ieee (111) standards-association (n) lan-man-stds (802) part5-token-ring (5) The responsibility for allocating the subsequent arcs under the individual standard lies with the standard concerned.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1722/contributions/2007/avbtp-bartky-encapsulation-v0-04-2007-08-08.pdf
(see 802.1AS assumptions from AVB document)). • 61883 format over AVBTP will support presentation time in the same manner as 1394/61883 using the SYT field and in 24.576 MHz cycle time based on 802.1AS clock. – 61883-4 & 61883-7: Source Packet Header format with 0-127 seconds, 0-7999 8 kHz cycles, 0-3072 24.576 MHz sub-cycles.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/email/stds-802-11-tgm/msg01370.html
[STDS-802-11-TGM] Updated REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolution spreadshee Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGM] Updated REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolution spreadsheet To : STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGM] Updated REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolution spreadsheet From : Mark Hamilton < mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx > Date : Thu, 10 May 2018 01:46:23 -0600 --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- All,   I have posted an updated spreadsheet of REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolutions, here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/17/11-17-0927-18-000m-revmd-mac-comments.xls   This includes CIDs ready for motion on the “Motion MAC-O” tab: 1397, 1394, 1369, 1354, 1189, 1021.  
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/2001/Mar01/Misc/?C=M;O=A
Index of /groups/802/15/pub/2001/Mar01/Misc Index of /groups/802/15/pub/2001/Mar01/Misc Name Last modified Size Description Parent Directory - meeting.pdf 2000-12-12 00:49 98K graphic-hiltonhead-r1.xls 2001-02-05 22:34 23K Siep_Changes_to_Bluetooth_r1.PDF 2001-02-20 19:15 826K 022001_BT_North_America-Siep-r1.PDF 2001-02-21 12:17 1.8M 11-01-181r0-E-QoS-for-1394.ppt 2001-03-15 07:00 278K FCC_part15_feb28_01.pdf 2001-03-15 07:01 273K 1080r28R-Liaison-Statement-on-Sharing-Studies.pdf 2001-03-15 07:02 12K 1081r28R-Liaison-Between-IEEE802.11-and-RADARs-in-Radiolocation-and-Radionavigation.pdf 2001-03-15 07:02 18K 10958-r2R-Amend-the-IEEE-Five-Criteria.pdf 2001-03-15 07:02 9.6K 11-01-201-PG-Publicity-Group-Report-r1.ppt 2001-03-16 14:03 46K FCC_letter-rev3.doc 2001-03-20 18:37 22K Bluetooth-BOF-at-50th-IETF-PAN-Talk.ppt 2001-03-20 18:40 349K 11-01-152r0-G-An-approach-to-the-problem-of-optimizing-channel-parameters.ppt 2001-03-21 16:51 156K FCC_letter-rev4.doc 2001-03-22 11:56 22K Siep-WPANs-r1.ppt 2001-03-30 16:39 1.9M RR-01-011-draft2-Letter-to-Mr.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/802.15%20Archives/802.15%20Archive%20pre-802WWW/2001/Mar01/Misc/?C=D;O=D
-JP-Knapp.doc 2001-04-03 22:11 24K FCC_part15_feb28_01.pdf 2001-03-15 07:01 273K FCC_letter-rev4.doc 2001-03-22 11:56 22K FCC_letter-rev3.doc 2001-03-20 18:37 22K Bluetooth-BOF-at-50th-IETF-PAN-Talk.ppt 2001-03-20 18:40 349K 11-01-201-PG-Publicity-Group-Report-r1.ppt 2001-03-16 14:03 46K 11-01-181r0-E-QoS-for-1394.ppt 2001-03-15 07:00 278K 11-01-152r0-G-An-approach-to-the-problem-of-optimizing-channel-parameters.ppt 2001-03-21 16:51 156K 10958-r2R-Amend-the-IEEE-Five-Criteria.pdf 2001-03-15 07:02 9.6K 1081r28R-Liaison-Between-IEEE802.11-and-RADARs-in-Radiolocation-and-Radionavigation.pdf 2001-03-15 07:02 18K 1080r28R-Liaison-Statement-on-Sharing-Studies.pdf 2001-03-15 07:02 12K 022001_BT_North_America-Siep-r1.PDF 2001-02-21 12:17 1.8M
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/email/stds-802-11-tgbc/msg00589.html
[STDS-802-11-TGBC] TGbc Telco agenda August 24 Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGBC] TGbc Telco agenda August 24 To : STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGBC] TGbc Telco agenda August 24 From : Marc Emmelmann < 00000ba26c12414c-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date : Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:11:11 +0200 Dear all, Please find the agenda for today’s TGbc telco on mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1394-00-00bc-agenda-tgbc-telco-august-24-2021.pptx The following submission is so far on the presentation list.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/802.15%20Archives/802.15%20Archive%20pre-802WWW/2001/Mar01/Misc/?C=S;O=D
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