[STDS-802-11-TGBF] Updated group documents (LB276) Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Updated group documents (LB276) To : STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Updated group documents (LB276) From : Claudio da Silva < 00001ce441172b4c-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date : Thu, 14 Sep 2023 14:42:50 +0000 All,   I have uploaded updated versions of the following documents: LB276 comments and approved resolutions ( https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1394-05-00bf-lb276-comments-and-approved-resolutions.xlsx ) LB276 SPs and motions ( https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1494-01-00bf-lb276-sps-and-motions.xlsx ) Best,   Claudio   Assigned Ready for Motion Approved RfM+A Alecs 18 0 16 16 Ali 33 0 33 33 Assaf 26 0 0 0 Atsushi 47 0 0 0 Benedikt 6 0 0 0 Chaoming 2 0 1 1 Cheng 46 0 34 34 Chris 15 0 0 0 Claudio (E) 66 0 0 0 Claudio (T) 29 0 0 0 Dibakar 25 0 0 0 Dongguk 8 0 3 3 Dong 32 0 0 0 Mahmoud 17 0 0 0 Mengshi 20 0 0 0 Mike M. 1 0 1 1 Naren 34 0 4 4 Ning 1 0 0 0 Pei 11 0 4 4 Rojan 4 0 0 0 Rui Du 27 0 0 0 Rui Yang 8 0 8 8 Shuling (Julia) 4 0 0 0 Stephen S. 24 0 9 9 Xiandong 13 0 13 13 Yan 10 0 4 4 Yanjun 1 0 0 0 Zhanjing 8 0 0 0 Zhuqing 9 0 0 0 All 545 0 130 130 0 0.2385321 0.2385321   Submitted Ready for Motion Approved RfM+A PoC Annexes 29 0 0 Claudio DMG 84 0 23 23 Alecs Editorial 67 0 1 1 Claudio Exchange 98 0 53 53 Cheng Misc 26 0 20 20 Zinan OST 147 0 15 15 Chaoming Reporting 60 0 3 3 Chris SBP 34 0 15 15 Cheng All 545 0 130 130 0 0.2385321 0.238532     To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-11-TGBF list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?

. > > From IEEE Std 1394 Serial Bus experiences, as well as > the telecom industry as a whole, the value of synchronous > transfers is greatly increased if time-of-day clocks > can also be synchronized. > > DVJ > > > David V.

. > >As an MSC representative, I would have provided >such a follow-up on the addresses used within >MSC sponsored projects (754, 1394, etc.), as >a duty to my position. > >I prefer to see the evidence before jumping into >denial or conclusions, since (through out my career) >I have seen suboptimal decisions made when this >ordering is reversed. > > >> >If you feel strongly about this, >Yes, I feel strongly about conservation of OUI space.

Firewire UTP – IEEE 1394 over UTP.

Best Regards,   Adrian P STEPHENS Tel: +44 (1793) 404 825 Tel: +44 (7920) 084 900 Tel: +1 (408) 239 7485   ---------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47   From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11-tgm List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Rosdahl Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:25 PM To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] [Gen AdHoc] Update to comment spreadsheet through Dec 7th Telecon   --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- I have uploaded doc 11-12/1394r3 which contains the updated status for the Gen AdHoc Comments through the Dec 7th Telecon. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1394-03-000m-gen-adhoc-preballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xlsx   Note that there are still a lot of comments that could use some assistance in resolving.

References: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1189-09-000m-mac-adhoc-pre-ballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xls , https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1082-12-0000-revmc-pre-ballot-comments.xls and https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1394-03-000m-gen-adhoc-preballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xlsx .

[STDS-802-11-EDITORS] 11be ANA request Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-EDITORS] 11be ANA request To : STDS-802-11-EDITORS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-EDITORS] 11be ANA request From : "Stacey, Robert" < robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx > Date : Thu, 26 Jan 2023 17:04:22 +0000 --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Editors' Reflector --- Hello Edward,   You allocations: TransactionID Type Status User Group Resource Ref Doc Ref Subclause Ref Location Name Req Value Description Allocated Value 1390 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 DENIED_LINK_ON_WHICH_THE_(RE)ASSOCIATION FRAME_IS_ TRANSMITTED_NOT_ACCEPTED Link not accepted because the link on which the (Re)Association Request frame is transmitted is not accepted. 139 1391 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 EPCS_DENIED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE EPCS priority access is temporarily denied because the receiving AP MLD is unable to verify that the non-AP MLD is authorized for an unspecified reason. 140 1392 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 DENIED_OPERATION_PARAMETER_UPDATE Operation parameter update denied because the requested operation parameters or capabilities are not acceptable. 141 1393 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 MLO Link Information 133 1394 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 AID Bitmap 134 1395 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 Bandwidth Indication 135   So you don’t need to ask twice 😊   -Robert     From: Edward Au Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 8:22 AM To: Stacey, Robert Subject: 11be ANA request   Dear Robert,   I would like to request allocation of the following 6 items for TGbe:   Type of Request Resource Name Item Name Item Description Requested Value (if any) Requested by Task Group Requested by Name Allocate StatusCodes DENIED_LINK_ON_WHICH_THE_(RE)ASSOCIATION FRAME_IS_ TRANSMITTED_NOT_ACCEPTED Link not accepted because the link on which the (Re)Association Request frame is transmitted is not accepted.  

>Although I have chaired four different IEEE WGs, and two SGs (1196 Nubus 2, >1394, 1394b, and 1394c), those were all MSC-sponsored, and I was certainly >inexperienced with 802 procedures, much less 802.3 procedures.

Claudio   Assigned Ready for Motion Approved RfM+A Alecs 18 0 18 18 Ali 34 0 33 33 Assaf 26 0 0 0 Atsushi 47 12 22 34 Benedikt 8 0 0 0 Chaoming 2 0 2 2 Cheng 46 0 38 38 Chris 15 0 0 Claudio (E) 66 13 53 66 Claudio (T) 29 2 27 29 Dibakar 25 0 0 0 Dongguk 8 0 3 3 Dong 32 0 9 9 Mahmoud 17 1 10 11 Mengshi 20 0 20 20 Mike M. 1 0 1 1 Naren 34 11 10 21 Ning 1 1 0 1 Pei 11 0 11 11 Rojan 4 4 0 4 Rui Du 27 6 11 17 Rui Yang 8 0 8 8 Shuling (Julia) 4 0 0 0 Stephen S. 24 0 9 9 Xiandong 13 0 13 13 Yan 10 0 4 4 Zhanjing 8 0 8 8 Zhuqing 7 7 0 7 All 545 57 310 367 0.104587156 0.5688073 0.6733945     Submitted Ready for Motion Approved RfM+A PoC Annexes 29 2 27 29 Claudio DMG 84 12 27 39 Alecs Editorial 67 13 54 67 Claudio Exchange 98 4 72 76 Cheng Misc 26 3 21 24 Zinan OST 147 17 55 72 Chaoming Reporting 60 5 35 40 Chris SBP 34 1 19 20 Cheng All 545 57 310 367 0.104587156 0.5688073 0.673394     From: Claudio da Silva Sent: Friday, November 3, 2023 11:00 AM To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Updated group documents   All,   I have uploaded updated versions of our comment resolution documents: LB276 comments and approved resolutions ( https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1394-09-00bf-lb276-comments-and-approved-resolutions.xlsx ) LB276 SPs and motions ( https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1494-05-00bf-lb276-sps-and-motions.xlsx ) Please review and let me know if you find problems.

While most of the current implementations are MAC addresses, and some Firewire (1394) addresses, it is expanding to all elements within the addressable environment with EUI requirements for disk drives to clusters to PCIExpress devices on the mother board and beyond.

The following presentations were made: #1 Geoff Thompson, Nortel – Spyder-LAN (see Spider-LAN.ppt) Discussion: 1394 compatibility 100Mbps compatibility Can spyder mode be originated and best-effort data be later sent from the same DTE Can spider elements be cascaded?

. • Technologies such as IEEE 1394, Bluetooth and USB exist today but each has their own encapsulation, protocols, timing control, etc. such that building interworking functions is difficult.

Here is a list of some of my relevant qualifications: Performance modeling activities: Founded and run AmerNet which specializes in architecture analysis and performance modeling for networking and communication products and have many clients in various committees of the IEEE 802 and elsewhere Recognized expert in the field of network/communication performance analysis and modeling and author of many publications, articles and papers on various aspects of LAN/Networking performance analysis Worked in the LAN performance analysis group at IBM since 1988 Activities in RPR: Have been participating in the RPRSG since the first meeting in May 2000 Volunteered to chair the adhoc committee on performance modeling for the RPRSG Successfully led the performance adhoc committee to reach agreement on a lot of open issues related to the performance modeling efforts Drafted and posted a draft charter for the RPR performance committee as well as the list of its accomplishments  Activities in the IEEE 802 standards and other standard bodies: An active participant in the IEEE 802 since 1992 Have been a voting member of 802.3, 802.5, 802.15 and 802.17 Represented IBM's position in various IEEE 802 committees Provided a tutorial on QoS and priorities in Token Ring LANs based on extensive simulations and performance analysis The main IEEE 802 representative for Rockwell Semiconductor Systems Chaired the QoS study group from July 1998 till March 1999 An active participant in the IETF, NP Forum and IEEE 1394 Educational background: MS degree in Electrical Engineering (Caltech - 1986) Professional background: Specialized in the area of LAN performance analysis for my entire career Responsible for the performance analysis of many system architectures and networking chips at IBM Responsible for joint research work between IBM and NC-State University in the area of multimedia performance in LAN environments Founded AmerNet in May 1998 which specializes in performance modeling and architectural analysis In response to a request from our chair to clarify why I am active in IEEE 802.17:   AmerNet provides services related to IEEE activities.

Most noteable are IEEE 754 Floating Point >> > and IEEE 1394, and other microprocessor standards.

. > > Examples: > > IEEE Std 802(R)-2002 or IEEE 802(R)-2002 > > IEEE 802(R) Working Group > > IEEE Std 802.11b(TM)-1999 > > IEEE 1394(TM) > > IEEE P1232(TM) > >If you have any questions, CONTACT Claudio Stanziola - IEEE Standards > >Activities - telephone +1 732 562 3804; " MailTo:c.stanziola@ieee.org" ;.

Some overall news: * The IEEE SA Standards board approved the 1394 revision PAR.

. > >As an MSC representative, I would have provided >such a follow-up on the addresses used within >MSC sponsored projects (754, 1394, etc.), as >a duty to my position. > >I prefer to see the evidence before jumping into >denial or conclusions, since (through out my career) >I have seen suboptimal decisions made when this >ordering is reversed. > > >> >If you feel strongly about this, >Yes, I feel strongly about conservation of OUI space.

Regards, Edward ---------- Forwarded message --------- Hello Edward,   You allocations: TransactionID Type Status User Group Resource Ref Doc Ref Subclause Ref Location Name Req Value Description Allocated Value 1390 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 DENIED_LINK_ON_WHICH_THE_(RE)ASSOCIATION FRAME_IS_ TRANSMITTED_NOT_ACCEPTED Link not accepted because the link on which the (Re)Association Request frame is transmitted is not accepted. 139 1391 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 EPCS_DENIED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE EPCS priority access is temporarily denied because the receiving AP MLD is unable to verify that the non-AP MLD is authorized for an unspecified reason. 140 1392 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 DENIED_OPERATION_PARAMETER_UPDATE Operation parameter update denied because the requested operation parameters or capabilities are not acceptable. 141 1393 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 MLO Link Information 133 1394 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 AID Bitmap 134 1395 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 Bandwidth Indication 135   So you don’t need to ask twice 😊   -Robert     From: Edward Au < edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 8:22 AM To: Stacey, Robert < robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx > Subject: 11be ANA request   Dear Robert,   I would like to request allocation of the following 6 items for TGbe:   Type of Request Resource Name Item Name Item Description Requested Value (if any) Requested by Task Group Requested by Name Allocate StatusCodes DENIED_LINK_ON_WHICH_THE_(RE)ASSOCIATION FRAME_IS_ TRANSMITTED_NOT_ACCEPTED Link not accepted because the link on which the (Re)Association Request frame is transmitted is not accepted.  

. >> >>As an MSC representative, I would have provided >>such a follow-up on the addresses used within >>MSC sponsored projects (754, 1394, etc.), as >>a duty to my position. >> >>I prefer to see the evidence before jumping into >>denial or conclusions, since (through out my career) >>I have seen suboptimal decisions made when this >>ordering is reversed. >> >> >>>>>If you feel strongly about this, >> >>Yes, I feel strongly about conservation of OUI space.

From IEEE Std 1394 Serial Bus experiences, as well as the telecom industry as a whole, the value of synchronous transfers is greatly increased if time-of-day clocks can also be synchronized.

[STDS-802-11-TGBF] Updated group documents Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Updated group documents To : STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Updated group documents From : Claudio da Silva < 00001ce441172b4c-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date : Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:57:28 +0000 All,   I have uploaded updated versions of the following documents: LB276 comments and approved resolutions ( https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1394-06-00bf-lb276-comments-and-approved-resolutions.xlsx ) LB276 SPs and motions ( https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1494-02-00bf-lb276-sps-and-motions.xlsx ) Best,   Claudio   Assigned Ready for Motion Approved RfM+A Alecs 18 0 16 16 Ali 33 0 33 33 Assaf 26 0 0 0 Atsushi 47 21 0 21 Benedikt 6 0 0 0 Chaoming 2 0 1 1 Cheng 46 0 34 34 Chris 15 0 0 0 Claudio (E) 66 53 0 53 Claudio (T) 29 0 0 0 Dibakar 25 0 0 0 Dongguk 8 0 3 3 Dong 32 11 0 11 Mahmoud 17 0 0 0 Mengshi 20 0 0 0 Mike M. 1 0 1 1 Naren 34 0 4 4 Ning 1 0 0 0 Pei 11 7 4 11 Rojan 4 0 0 0 Rui Du 27 6 0 6 Rui Yang 8 0 8 8 Shuling (Julia) 4 0 0 0 Stephen S. 24 0 9 9 Xiandong 13 0 13 13 Yan 10 0 4 4 Yanjun 1 0 0 0 Zhanjing 8 8 0 8 Zhuqing 9 0 0 0 All 545 106 130 236 0.194495413 0.2385321 0.4330275   Submitted Ready for Motion Approved RfM+A PoC Annexes 29 0 0 0 Claudio DMG 84 0 23 23 Alecs Editorial 67 53 1 54 Claudio Exchange 98 16 53 69 Cheng Misc 26 0 20 20 Zinan OST 147 35 15 50 Chaoming Reporting 60 2 3 5 Chris SBP 34 0 15 15 Cheng All 545 106 130 236 0.194495413 0.2385321 0.433028     To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-11-TGBF list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?

I’ve uploaded the received comments to mentor:  https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-1394-00-00bf-lb276-comments-and-approved-resolutions.xlsx A few action items: -           PoCs : Please review the comments that I have tentatively assigned to your area, and let me know if you any changes are needed. -           PoCs : Once you’ve reviewed the comments assigned to your area, please send a request for volunteers to your TTT. 

.: Corning Cable SystemsThe future proof solution wagner_1_1100 Pattern for other protocolls • 1000BASE-T on 4 pairs is bound to use the signalling pairs (part of the 802.3af objectives) • ATM, Token Ring, IEEE 1394, FDDI TP-PMD, PBX and other may follow suit easily 13Slide Nr.: Corning Cable SystemsThe future proof solution wagner_1_1100 Signal Pairs 1,2 – 3,6 Idle Pairs 4,5 – 7,8 Technical feasibility Economical feasibility Whenever pairs present and not used by 3rd party Compliant with ISO/IEC 11801 Standard worldwide NO Liaison Letter proper consideration of NO Easy to implement for 1000BASE-T NO Futureproof NO Appliable to installed cabling park 100 % < 70 % Exploitation of park beyond ICO/IEC 11801 NO End system Win - End user Win loose 14Slide Nr.: Corning Cable SystemsThe future proof solution wagner_1_1100 CONCLUSION To provide power via the MDI The Signal pairs 1-2 , 3-6 are the optimal solution for the largest market segment.

(ADSL2+, 1394, …) • Any other outreach (companies, countries) of importance to inform or engage?

Best Regards,   Adrian P STEPHENS Tel: +44 (1793) 404 825 Tel: +44 (7920) 084 900 Tel: +1 (408) 239 7485   ---------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47   From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11-tgm List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Rosdahl Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:25 PM To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] [Gen AdHoc] Update to comment spreadsheet through Dec 7th Telecon   --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- I have uploaded doc 11-12/1394r3 which contains the updated status for the Gen AdHoc Comments through the Dec 7th Telecon. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1394-03-000m-gen-adhoc-preballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xlsx   Note that there are still a lot of comments that could use some assistance in resolving.