Are we legislating crystal frequencies (no). 3 IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group San Antonio 3November 2004 House reference clockHouse reference clock 802.11e Ethernet 802.11e 1394 1394 Room #1 Room #2 Ethernet In support of synchronous transfers, all RE devices are assumed to have the same impression of time.

IEEE 1394 to be added to the Liaison List in the PAR; 3).

. > > The DTV/audio "clusters" will likely be connected together with 1394, but > the bridges between 1394 and 802.3+ will have queues as well, so that > doesn't reduce the need for queue management. > > Hmm.

IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Atlanta 26March 2005 fractions offset Conversion example: 1394Conversion example: 1394 fractionsseconds cycle (NTP RFC-1305, SNTP RFC-2030) sec b = (a*125)>>7 a b cycles d = (c*3)>>6 c d Notes: Two 32-bit additions for b: b= ((a<<7) - (a<<2) + a) >> 7; One 16-bit addition for d: d = ((c<<2) + c) >> 6; (IEEE 1394 CYCLE_TIME) IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Atlanta 27March 2005 Conversion example: EPONConversion example: EPON fractionsseconds (NTP RFC-1305, SNTP RFC-2030) b = (a*193125)>>24 a b Notes: Thus, eight 36-bit additions compute a very precise b value: b= ((a<<17)+(a<<16)-(a<<12)+(a<<9)+(a<<6)+(a<<5)+(a<<2)+a) >>24; (nanoTick = 16ns) nanoTicks IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Atlanta 28March 2005 PassbyPassby PLLs PLLs (proposal 1)(proposal 1) slave PLL clock master clock master clock master clock gate gate gate gate IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Atlanta 29March 2005 Passthrough PLLs Passthrough PLLs (option 2)(option 2) slave PLL clock master clock master clock master clock gate gate gate gate IEEE 802.3 RE Study Group Atlanta 30March 2005 Synchronized timeSynchronized time--ofof--day clocksday clocks Why?

August 3, 2007 IEEE P1722 AVBTP Working Group Contribution 4 Proposal Summary •Provide a fragmentation/reassembly service based on an integral number of quadlets •Add one additional quadlet to AVBTP header for all stream data frames •Standardize use of packet length field to use in Bartky Networks www.bartky.net •Standardize use of packet length field to use in conjunction with fragmentation and reassembly algorithms (e.g. used as sanity check for reassembly) –Use 1394 isochronous packet byte length field from previous proposals August 3, 2007 IEEE P1722 AVBTP Working Group Contribution 5 Proposal Summary • Add the following new fields: – Fragment Length (quadlet count) – Fragment Control (First and Last bits) – Stream Sequence (quadlet count) • Reuse the 1394 based packet length field, but standardize for all stream types. • Mandate “smart fragmentation”for cases such as 61883 Bartky Networks www.bartky.net • Mandate “smart fragmentation”for cases such as 61883 where packets are to be fragmented on source packet boundaries – Fragmentation rules passed to on a per stream basis • Per stream needed anyway to handle sequence number control • Allow for delivery of received pipelined fragments and/or incomplete reassembled packets at AVBTP to upper layer.

Shorted conductors, pairs or loop- back plug (4) Define a capability detection function that works with a powered and an unpowered device (5) Select the voltage, minimum and maximum current and wattage to be supplied (6) Add appropriate management objects for power capability and status (7) Support current standard, 4- pair, horizontal cabling infrastructure for installed Cat 3 and Cat 5 cabling (8) Preserve the signal transmission and isolation characteristics of existing equipment and cabling (9) Maintain normal functionality of Link Integrity Test function in legacy and new devices (10) Consider mid- span power insertion, powering over the signal pairs, and interaction with other RJ- 45 interfaces: Token Ring, ATM, FDDI TP- PMD, 1000BASE- T, ISDN, networking test equipment, PBX, IEEE 1394, devices listed in ISO/IEC 11801 : 1995 Annex G

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Shorted conductors, pairs or loop- back plug (4) Define a capability detection function that works with a powered and an unpowered device (5) Select the voltage, minimum and maximum current and wattage to be supplied (6) Add appropriate management objects for power capability and status (7) Support current standard, 4- pair, horizontal cabling infrastructure for installed Cat 3 and Cat 5 cabling (8) Preserve the signal transmission and isolation characteristics of existing equipment and cabling (9) Maintain normal functionality of Link Integrity Test function in legacy and new devices (10) Consider mid- span power insertion, powering over the signal pairs, and interaction with other RJ- 45 interfaces: Token Ring, ATM, FDDI TP- PMD, 1000BASE- T, ISDN, networking test equipment, PBX, IEEE 1394, devices listed in ISO/IEC 11801 : 1995 Annex G

IEEE 1394 Cat-5?

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Bob Grow (Intel) – introduction to Study Group List of Isochronous Requirements for RE: (* could be done in 802.3, ** partially in 802.3) Fully supports 802.1 *Low cost (zero additional perceived cost per unit to consumer) MAX 500uSec DELAY THROUGH EACH HOP (illustrated by Gibson) Performance requirements are based on 7 hops maximum (3.5 milliseconds) *Provide master clock with which all stations’ clocks maintain bounded phase delay (illustrated by Pioneer, lip-sync and digital speaker scenarios) *Phase delay (between master and station clock) short term jitter maximum is within a few microseconds *Phase delay (between master and station clock) long term jitter (drift) asymptotically approaches zero *Isochronous traffic only supported over 100Mbps or greater full-duplex *At least 75% of link bandwidth may be reserved for isochronous traffic *At least 10% of link bandwidth is reserved for best-effort traffic *Assumed cycle size is 8kHz (very widely used) **Network provides a mechanism to request/assign resources for isochronous transmission (e.g. bandwidth, channel) and the default rule(s) for managing the resources *Isochronous packets are never dropped nor delayed due to ANY other network traffic *Granularity (not minimum) of bandwidth allocation is on the order of single bytes per cycle By default, resource allocation is first-come-first-serve **Network will automatically reclaim previously allocated but currently unused resources **Isochronous traffic is not disrupted when a station/session is added/removed to/from the network Allows bridging to isoch 802.11e Allows bridging to isoch 1394

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[STDS-802-11-TGBC] TGbc Telco agenda August 24 Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGBC] TGbc Telco agenda August 24 To : STDS-802-11-TGBC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGBC] TGbc Telco agenda August 24 From : Marc Emmelmann < 00000ba26c12414c-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date : Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:11:11 +0200 Dear all, Please find the agenda for today’s TGbc telco on mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1394-00-00bc-agenda-tgbc-telco-august-24-2021.pptx The following submission is so far on the presentation list.

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[STDS-802-11-TGM] Updated REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolution spreadshee Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGM] Updated REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolution spreadsheet To : STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGM] Updated REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolution spreadsheet From : Mark Hamilton < mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx > Date : Thu, 10 May 2018 01:46:23 -0600 --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- All,   I have posted an updated spreadsheet of REVmd MAC ad hoc comment resolutions, here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/17/11-17-0927-18-000m-revmd-mac-comments.xls   This includes CIDs ready for motion on the “Motion MAC-O” tab: 1397, 1394, 1369, 1354, 1189, 1021.  

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Microsoft PowerPoint - AVBTP_Editors_working_slides_v0_04_2007_03_0 Misc. 61883, 1394 and AVB info for tutorial, discussion, brainstorming, etc. for AVBTP working group.

Microsoft PowerPoint - AVBTP_Editors_working_slides_v0_03_2007_03_0 Misc. 61883, 1394 and AVB info for tutorial, discussion, brainstorming, etc. for AVBTP working group.

If Peter's concerns are properly paraphrased in the previous paragraph, then I note that: 1) Peter is an authority on 1212 & 1394. 2) Peter has valid points of concern.

The relevant standards include: CSMA/CD (IEEE 802.3, ISO 8802-3) Token Bus (IEEE 802.4, ISO 8802-4) Token Ring (IEEE 802.5, ISO/IEC 8802-5) IEEE 802.6 (ISO/IEC DIS 8802-6) FDDI (ISO 9314-2) WLAN (IEEE 802.11, ISO/IEC 8802-11) B) The 'company_id' relevant standards include: defined in IEEE Std 1212-1991 Control and Status Register (CSR) Architecture referenced by IEEE Std 896.2-1991 Futurebus+Physical Layers and Profiles IEEE Std 1596-1992 Scalable Coherent Interface IEEE Std 1394-1995 Serial Bus document.

I'm more familiar with IEEE Std 1394, which distributes&synchronizes timers so that the microphone data can be presented to the amplifier without dropping/inserting samples.