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https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/email/stds-802-11-tgm/msg00121.html
Best Regards,   Adrian P STEPHENS Tel: +44 (1793) 404 825 Tel: +44 (7920) 084 900 Tel: +1 (408) 239 7485   ---------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47   From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11-tgm List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Rosdahl Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:25 PM To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] [Gen AdHoc] Update to comment spreadsheet through Dec 7th Telecon   --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- I have uploaded doc 11-12/1394r3 which contains the updated status for the Gen AdHoc Comments through the Dec 7th Telecon. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1394-03-000m-gen-adhoc-preballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xlsx   Note that there are still a lot of comments that could use some assistance in resolving.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/email/stds-802-11-tgm/msg00123.html
Best Regards,   Adrian P STEPHENS Tel: +44 (1793) 404 825 Tel: +44 (7920) 084 900 Tel: +1 (408) 239 7485   ---------------------------------------------- Intel Corporation (UK) Limited Registered No. 1134945 (England) Registered Office: Pipers Way, Swindon SN3 1RJ VAT No: 860 2173 47   From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11-tgm List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Rosdahl Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:25 PM To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] [Gen AdHoc] Update to comment spreadsheet through Dec 7th Telecon   --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- I have uploaded doc 11-12/1394r3 which contains the updated status for the Gen AdHoc Comments through the Dec 7th Telecon. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1394-03-000m-gen-adhoc-preballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xlsx   Note that there are still a lot of comments that could use some assistance in resolving.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/email/stds-802-11-tgm/msg00130.html
References: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1189-09-000m-mac-adhoc-pre-ballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xls , https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1082-12-0000-revmc-pre-ballot-comments.xls and https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1394-03-000m-gen-adhoc-preballot-comment-collection-resolutions.xlsx .
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00216.html
I could imagine one that is used to tag all IEC 61883-type packets (the normal tagging and formatting system for consumer-electronics type streams in 1394). -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael D.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/17/email/msg00757.html
. > > From IEEE Std 1394 Serial Bus experiences, as well as > the telecom industry as a whole, the value of synchronous > transfers is greatly increased if time-of-day clocks > can also be synchronized. > > DVJ > > > David V.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/power_study/email/msg00691.html
Probably useful to the customers, >although accurate network timing and good QOS are >likely to be perceived as threats by IEEE 1394 zealots. > >DVJ > > >David V.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00411.html
>Although I have chaired four different IEEE WGs, and two SGs (1196 Nubus 2, >1394, 1394b, and 1394c), those were all MSC-sponsored, and I was certainly >inexperienced with 802 procedures, much less 802.3 procedures.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/minutes/jul04/0704_re_cfi.pdf
- Speeds - Connectivity Study Item 3: Investigating existing mechanismsInvestigating existing mechanisms - 802.3 Clause 64, Clause 65 - 1394 isochronous - Gibson MaGIC Study Item 4: Interactions with 802.1Interactions with 802.1 - Ex: 802.1d, 802.1p, 802.1q, etc… IEEE 802.3 CFI Portland July 2004 7July 2004 Call for InterestCall for Interest Request 802.3 at the Closing Plenary to form a Residential Ethernet Study Group to develop a standards project proposal (PAR and 5 Criteria) for Residential Ethernet.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/minutes/nov04/1104_resg_open_report.pdf
. • ~20 individuals from ~8 organizations • Goals for the Week – Create a set of non-binding SG Objectives – Presentations • Created ad hocs on plug and play, synchronous issues, and PoE • Set goals for November Plenary IEEE 802.3 RESG San Antonio November 2004 3November 2004 PresentationsPresentations • “Application Objectives,” Dennis Lou, Pioneer • “MaGIC experience,” Alexei Beliaev, Gibson Labs • “Bridging 1394: a requirement for Residential Ethernet, “ Michael Johas Teener, Plumblinks • “Technical and economic feasibility for millisecond deterministic delay in Residential Ethernet,” Michael Johas Teener, Plumblinks • “Residential Ethernet: 2 Criteria,” Mike McCormack, 3Com • “Some Issues and Considerations for RE,” Jae Hun Cho, Chong Ho Yoon, Samsung Electronics IEEE 802.3 RESG San Antonio November 2004 4November 2004 Draft Objectives 9/30/2004Draft Objectives 9/30/2004 • Plug and Play – No user setup required (i.e.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/minutes/jul2004/802dot3%20Chair%20Report.pdf
. – Identified points of agreement on autonegotiation – Agreed to specify 10 GbE serial, GbE serial and 10 GbE four lane (change of Five Criteria approved to be consistent with these interface objectives) – Adopted definition of “improved FR4” – Signaling ad-hoc to be formed 16 July 2004 IEEE 802.3 Report 7 802.3aq 10GBASE-LRM • Extends Ethernet capabilities at 10 Gb/s – Operation over installed multimode fiber – New physical layer to run under 802.3ae specified XGMII • Working toward first draft 16 July 2004 IEEE 802.3 Report 8 Congestion Management SG • Adopted narrowed problem statement: 802.3 MAC client needs to be able to limit traffic being received from its peer to avoid congestion due to oversubscription • Agreed on a partial set of objectives for a possible project • Study Group extended through November plenary meeting 16 July 2004 IEEE 802.3 Report 9 Frame Expansion SG • Address request from 802.1 to expand 802.3 maximum frame size to allow addition of protocol header and trailer fields – IEEE 802.3 Ad Hoc/CFI held – Also subject of joint technical plenary with 802.1 – Half duplex repeater limits and other PHY layer limitation were discussed, additional study required for PHY layers that support retiming in the data path • Study Group approved by 802.3 and Executive Committee 16 July 2004 IEEE 802.3 Report 10 Residential Ethernet SG • Successful call for interest held on Residential Ethernet – Focus is requirements of consumer electronics within the home – Issues include latency, latency jitter, and timing synchronization for consumer media distribution/playback • Study Group approved by 802.3 and Executive Committee 16 July 2004 IEEE 802.3 Report 11 Other Activities • IEEE 1394 tutorial sponsored • New maintenance requests approved, interpretations response approved • Autumn interim meeting – Details are TBD – Target week: 27 September 2004 – Target location: North America
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/2004/15-04-0584-00-003b-berlin-to-san-antonio-conference-call-minutes.pdf
John S. wants to make sure that we provide what is necessary to support requirements for 1394.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/email/stds-802-11-tgbe/msg08586.html
Regards, Edward ---------- Forwarded message --------- Hello Edward,   You allocations: TransactionID Type Status User Group Resource Ref Doc Ref Subclause Ref Location Name Req Value Description Allocated Value 1390 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 DENIED_LINK_ON_WHICH_THE_(RE)ASSOCIATION FRAME_IS_ TRANSMITTED_NOT_ACCEPTED Link not accepted because the link on which the (Re)Association Request frame is transmitted is not accepted. 139 1391 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 EPCS_DENIED_VERIFICATION_FAILURE EPCS priority access is temporarily denied because the receiving AP MLD is unable to verify that the non-AP MLD is authorized for an unspecified reason. 140 1392 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe StatusCodes IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.1.9 Table 9-50 DENIED_OPERATION_PARAMETER_UPDATE Operation parameter update denied because the requested operation parameters or capabilities are not acceptable. 141 1393 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 MLO Link Information 133 1394 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 AID Bitmap 134 1395 Allocate Pending Edward Au TGbe Element ID Extension 1 IEEE Std 802.11-2020 9.4.2.1 Table 9-92 Bandwidth Indication 135   So you don’t need to ask twice 😊   -Robert     From: Edward Au < edward.ks.au@xxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 8:22 AM To: Stacey, Robert < robert.stacey@xxxxxxxxx > Subject: 11be ANA request   Dear Robert,   I would like to request allocation of the following 6 items for TGbe:   Type of Request Resource Name Item Name Item Description Requested Value (if any) Requested by Task Group Requested by Name Allocate StatusCodes DENIED_LINK_ON_WHICH_THE_(RE)ASSOCIATION FRAME_IS_ TRANSMITTED_NOT_ACCEPTED Link not accepted because the link on which the (Re)Association Request frame is transmitted is not accepted.  
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/maint/requests/open_num.html
IEEE 802.3 Open Revision Requests
Order by Request Number IEEE 802.3 Open Revision Requests Order by Request Number Req# Status Standard Clause Date Subject 1380 B 802.3.2-2019 Various, see details 08-Sep-20 MAC address format 1383 B 802.3.1-2013 Various, see details 19-Nov-20 References to IEEE Std 802.1D 1394 B 802.3-2022 98.2.1 18-Feb-22 Clause 98 HSM support 1395 B 802.3-2022 147.8 22-Mar-22 Mixing segment specifications 1396 B 802.3-2022 147.8 22-Mar-22 Mixing segment specifications 1397 B 802.3-2022 1.4.473 01-Apr-22 Definition of "PoDL PSE" 1398 B 802.3-2022 Various, see details 23-May-22 Primitive name 1399 B 802.3-2022 56.1.3 06-Jun-22 Split Table 56-1 by media type 1400 B 802.3-2022 4.1.2.2 13-Jul-22 Description of collision 1401 B 802.3-2022 144.3.5 09-Sep-22 Remove GLID from list 1402 B 802.3-2022 135F.1 01-Dec-22 Typo 1403 B 802.3-2022 Table 119-5 09-May-23 Typo 1404 B 802.3-2022 Annex 55A 12-May-23 Machine-readable extracts 1405 B 802.3-2022 Various, see details 26-May-23 Formatting error 1406 B 802.3-2022 Various, see details 26-May-23 Incorrect cross-reference 1407 B 802.3-2022 Various, see details 02-Jun-23 Update interface list 1408 B 802.3-2022 30.12.3.1.59 07-Jul-23 "PD" not "PSE" 1409 B 802.3-2022 30.12.3.1 10-Jul-23 Duplicate subclause numbers 1410 B 802.3-2022 Various, see details 06-Aug-23 Typo 1411 B 802.3-2022 99.3.6 06-Aug-23 mCRC value mapping 1412 B 802.3-2022 99.4.7.1 06-Aug-23 State diagram conventions 1413 B 802.3-2022 99.4.7.7 18-Aug-23 SMDS_ENCODE() definition 1414 B 802.3-2022 99.4.7.7 18-Aug-23 Typo 1415 B 802.3-2022 149.8.2.1 07-Sep-23 Error in return loss limit 1416 B 802.3cy-2023 165.8.2.1 07-Sep-23 Error in return loss limit 1417 B 802.3ck-2022 161.5.3.8 20-Sep-23 am_rxpayloads derivation 1418 B 802.3-2022 Figure 36-3 20-Sep-23 Incorrect title 1419 B 802.3-2022 Figure 99-6 22-Sep-23 Missing action 1420 B 802.3ck-2022 116.4 29-Sep-23 Incorrect delay constraints 1421 I 802.3-2022 97.4.2.4 11-Oct-23 infofield_complete behavior 1422 B 802.3-2022 97.4.2.4.10 11-Oct-23 Requirement conditional on EEE 1423 B 802.3ck-2022 Various, see details 08-Nov-23 AC-coupling to test points 1424 B 802.3ck-2022 Various, see details 08-Nov-23 Add measurement frequency 1425 B 802.3-2022 Figure 119-11 13-Dec-23 Typo 1426 B 802.3-2022 149.1.3 18-Jan-24 Extraneous signal 1427 B 802.3-2022 120G.3.3.5.2 25-Jan-24 Incorrect reference point 1428 R 802.3-2022 132.1.6 07-Feb-24 Incorrect cross reference 1429 R 802.3-2022 46.3.4.3 02-Apr-24 State diagram transition 1430 R 802.3-2022 Table 141-20 03-Apr-24 Incorrect column headings 1431 R 802.3-2022 Various, see details 29-Apr-24 Update reference Return to 802.3 Maintenance Requests Page Last Update: 08 May 2024
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/af/public/nov00/wagner_1_1100.pdf
.: Corning Cable SystemsThe future proof solution wagner_1_1100 Pattern for other protocolls • 1000BASE-T on 4 pairs is bound to use the signalling pairs (part of the 802.3af objectives) • ATM, Token Ring, IEEE 1394, FDDI TP-PMD, PBX and other may follow suit easily 13Slide Nr.: Corning Cable SystemsThe future proof solution wagner_1_1100 Signal Pairs 1,2 – 3,6 Idle Pairs 4,5 – 7,8 Technical feasibility Economical feasibility Whenever pairs present and not used by 3rd party Compliant with ISO/IEC 11801 Standard worldwide NO Liaison Letter proper consideration of NO Easy to implement for 1000BASE-T NO Futureproof NO Appliable to installed cabling park 100 % < 70 % Exploitation of park beyond ICO/IEC 11801 NO End system Win - End user Win loose 14Slide Nr.: Corning Cable SystemsThe future proof solution wagner_1_1100 CONCLUSION To provide power via the MDI The Signal pairs 1-2 , 3-6 are the optimal solution for the largest market segment.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/17/documents/presentations/sep2001/as_natbridge_01.pdf
2001, 1394 Trade Association.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/2003/May03/03185r0P802-15_WG-Minutes-from-Dallas-May16.doc
The project will be taken to the 1394 TA board for approval in July. 8:34 Glyn Roberts discussed the closing report for the PC committee (IEEE802.15-03/189r2) 8:38 Karaoguz reported on 802.11g.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Documents/DocumentArchives/1999_docs/90548S-WPAN-HomeRF-Tutorial-Office-97.pdf
Research liReady Systems lKansai Denki lLG Electronics lMatsushita Electronics lMatsushita Works lMicrosoft lMitsubishi lMotorola lNational Semiconductor lNEC Corporation lNortel lOki lOsitis Software ® Intel’s Labs9 SWAP Product Development l Butterfly Communications l Compaq l Hewlett-Packard l IBM l Intel l iReady l Microsoft l Motorola l Proxim l OTC Telecom l RF Monolithics l Samsung l Symbionics The following member companies are developing SWAP products: ® Intel’s Labs10 Enabling the Vision PrinterCamera Game Pad USB Stereo Camcorder VCR TV Multimedia (e.g. 1394) Grandma’s Brownies 3 cups flour 1 cup grated chocolate 1 cup sugar 1 stick butter HomeRF SWAP Control Point HomePNA Phone Cable 1394 ® Intel’s Labs11 The SWAP Network Other Home Networks (HPNA,phone,AC) TCP/IP Based Network of Asynchronous Peer-Peer Devices Main Home PC ?
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00073.html
. > > The DTV/audio "clusters" will likely be connected together with 1394, but > the bridges between 1394 and 802.3+ will have queues as well, so that > doesn't reduce the need for queue management. > > Hmm.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/17/documents/presentations/jul2001/bdh_adp_01.pdf
. – Full Topology » In USB, IEEE 1394, and Fiber Channel the master station knows the full topology of the bus 13Making Global Networks Workbdh_adp_01.pdf Capability Knowledge How much does each node know of the capabilities (such as the link rate) of the other members of the Ring?
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Documents/DocumentArchives/2000_docs/02528E-Philips'%20OPNET%20Model%20Implementation.doc
Task Assignment From the earlier IEEE 802.11 TGe simulation ad hoc group meeting, Philips was assigned the following tasks in the OPNET 802.11 Wireless LAN model enhancement: · Adding PLCP preamble and header · Adding PHY layer delays such as CCA delay and Rx-Tx turnaround time · Modelling IEEE 802.11a PHY · Adding the interface to IEEE 1394 2.
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/email/msg00078.html
. >> >> The DTV/audio "clusters" will likely be connected together with 1394, >> but >> the bridges between 1394 and 802.3+ will have queues as well, so that >> doesn't reduce the need for queue management. >>
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/hssg/public/sept07/gustlin_02_0907.pdf
Average skew is 2.3 bits, maximal skew is 5.6 bits. 15 Stage 2 - Long Simulation, Setup A Simulations length: 1012 bits, 10 seconds 10 input and output Electrical media, 4 optical Skew: None in electrical media Max skew in optical: 5 bits (latencies in bit-time: 1, 2, 4, 6) Input scenarios: Random input All ones input All ones input, scrambler seed randomized every 6x106 bits (every 60µs, total 185649 times) 16 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 0.09 1 5 9 13 17 21 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 53 57 61 65 69 73 77 81 85 89 93 97 101 105 109 113 117 121 125 scrambler Electrical media optical media Random Input (128b window) 1548(-1534)41Max (min) 1514-151039Scrambler 1418-129637Rx EM 9 1466-131636Rx EM 8 1396-135038Rx EM 7 1354-153439Rx EM 6 1314-130835Rx EM 5 1434-132636Rx EM 4 1476-134437Rx EM 3 1412-137235Rx EM 2 1374-138436Rx EM 1 1374-139837Rx EM 0 1402-141841Optical 3 1548-146636Optical 2 1410-144437Optical1 1454-144437Optical 0 1396-135036Tx EM 9 1332-136435Tx EM 8 1312-130835Tx EM 7 1366-141833Tx EM 6 1476-134437Tx EM 5 1348-137235Tx EM 4 1374-138235Tx EM 3 1444-139435Tx EM 2 1418-129638Tx EM 1 1424-144035Tx EM 0 Max running disparity Min running disparity Max run length 17 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 0.09 1 5 9 13 17 21 25 29 33 37 41 45 49 53 57 61 65 69 73 77 81 85 89 93 97 101 105 109 113 117 121 125 scrambler Electrical media optical media All Ones Input (128b window) 1934(-1460)43Max (min) 1934-128443Scrambler 1400-133439Rx EM 9 1368-137840Rx EM 8 1390-140840Rx EM 7 1318-142837Rx EM 6 1390-130237Rx EM 5 1398-143837Rx EM 4 1494-139438Rx EM 3 1438-134437Rx EM 2 1370-140435Rx EM 1 1398-135039Rx EM 0 1468-136236Optical 3 1482-138440Optical 2 1466-140837Optical1 1502-146040Optical 0 1390-140842Tx EM 9 1336-142237Tx EM 8 1390-129837Tx EM 7 1410-132034Tx EM 6 1494-139437Tx EM 5 1394-132836Tx EM 4 1368-140436Tx EM 3 1428-133435Tx EM 2 1400-133439Tx EM 1 1358-137436Tx EM 0 Max running disparity Min running disparity Max run length 18 Stage 3 - Long Simulation, Setup B Simulations length: 1012 bits, 10 seconds 4 transmit and receive electrical media, 2 optical Possible future evolution Skew: None in electrical media Skew in optical: 7 bits (latencies in bit-time: 1, 8) Input scenarios: Random input All ones input 19 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 1 6 11 16 21 26 31 36 41 46 51 56 61 66 71 76 81 86 91 96 101 106 111 116 121 126 InEM0 Optic0 OutEM0 Scrambler Electrical Scrambler Optic Random Input 1468(-1602)51Max (min) 1446-160240Scrambler 1414-137242Rx EM 3 1468-142238Rx EM 2 1424-140438Rx EM 1 1400-136836Rx EM 0 1412-142043Optical1 1438-142851Optical 0 1414-137242Tx EM 3 1400-136836Tx EM 2 1424-140438Tx EM 1 1468-142238Tx EM 0 Max running disparity Min running disparity Max run length 20 0 0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 1 6 11 16 21 26 31 36 41 46 51 56 61 66 71 76 81 86 91 96 101 106 111 116 121 126 InEM1 Optical1 OutEM2 Scrambler Electrical Scrambler Optic All Ones Input
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/power_study/email/msg00698.html
I know that 1394 has another focus but putting a CAT-5 network is somewhat easier than planning a flexible 1394 network (in Europe we don´t have phone nets like in the US).
https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/pub/802.15%20Archives/802.15%20Archive%20pre-802WWW/2003/May03/03185r0P802-15_WG-Minutes-from-Dallas-May16.doc
The project will be taken to the 1394 TA board for approval in July. 8:34 Glyn Roberts discussed the closing report for the PC committee (IEEE802.15-03/189r2) 8:38 Karaoguz reported on 802.11g.