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Ethernet over USB Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index Ethernet over USB To : IEEE RAC < stds-rac@xxxxxxxx > Subject : Ethernet over USB From : Geoff Thompson < thompson@xxxxxxxx > Date : Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:28:13 -0700 Cc : Geoff Thompson < thompson@xxxxxxxx > Delivered-to : mhonarc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List-help : < https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?

The USB-IF, the group that controls the USB-C system, has indicated willingness to work with any group that does a good job defining how those signals are used in various “alternate modes".

stds-802-mobility: USB Storage Device Left at 802.20 Meeting Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index stds-802-mobility: USB Storage Device Left at 802.20 Meeting To : stds-802-mobility@ieee.org Subject : stds-802-mobility: USB Storage Device Left at 802.20 Meeting From : Jerry1upton@aol.com Date : Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:13:10 -0500 Sender : owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org All, A member of 802.20 found a USB storage device on the floor after the Thursday meeting.

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The 2-channel USB interface for Mac...

UPS USB AC USB USB USB 5V 5V 5V 5V Storage Sub- System Printer/Scan/Fax/Copy Audio Monitors Main Laptop USB Power Charging Ports Desktop Version Docking Station or Expansion Box Extending Cable UPAMD/1823 Docking Station / HUB Several Outputs Total output = USB USB Mating Plate UPAMD Cable UPAMD Cable UPAMD/1823 Battery Pack Source and Load Small to LARGE Capacity Audio Video Projector Power Flow UPAMD/1823 Potential Topologies Bob Davis 201103171100 S o la r SOLAR Power 5V 5V ALL UPAMD Cables and Connectors are IDENTICAL UPAMD/1823 Battery Pack Source and Load Small to LARGE Capacity Situation Display UPS USB5V USB Cable USB Cable 90W 25W 10W 15W 100W?

For instance > a USB 3 conforming device (USB is a standard but not an > IEEE standard) might not function in a USB 2 port, but > a USB 2 device should function in a USB 3 port, n'est pas?

For instance a USB 3 conforming device (USB is a standard but not an IEEE standard) might not function in a USB 2 port, but a USB 2 device should function in a USB 3 port, n'est pas?

UPAMD/1823 Multiport 10<>240W each Add USB for <10W USB USB USB5V 5V 5V DVD Player UPAMD/1823 Multiport 10<>240W each Up to Adapter Maximum Rated Watts Plus USB Plus Battery?

UPAMD/1823 Multiport 10<>240W each Add USB for <10W USB USB USB5V 5V 5V DVD Player UPAMD/1823 Multiport 10<>240W each Up to Adapter Maximum Rated Watts Plus USB Plus Battery?

Yes Explanation: The issue here is the use of USB device class and attributes these are defined by the USB   consortium.

– Expected in the market during 2005 PoE for the emerging ResE standard • Audio/Video – iPod (12W) • Today powered via IEEE1394/USB 2.0 • Apple has sold 3.72 million of the players, including 860,000 in the 3Q ’04 alone (Source: Bloomberg October 2004) – Other MP3 players • Currently have USB 1.1/2.0 port – Digital Camcorders (3W to 20W) • Have IEEE1394 port • 3W-7W operating • Up to 20W needed for fast charging – Ethernet Speakers (5W to 40W) • As part of distributed music system over the network – LCD Monitors ????

For instance a USB 3 conforming device (USB is a standard but not an IEEE standard) might not function in a USB 2 port, but a USB 2 device should function in a USB 3 port, n'est pas?

USB for <10W, UPAMD/1823 for >10W.

The chart on the right is the updated report 4 years later. 2011 Curve 2011 Curve scaled vertically for 2015 and 2019 Disk Drive Interfaces 5 Interface Data Rate (Gb/s) Note Ethernet 1 (2.5, 5)* Minimal GbE Fibre Channel 1-8 SAS took over after 8GFC SAS 3-24 Major Enterprise Storage Drive USB 0.48-10 Peripheral Drive PCIe 2-63 Server Drive SATA 1.5-6 Desktops *This Study Group The 2015 Ethernet Roadmap • The Ethernet Alliance has developed the 2015 Ethernet Roadmap • Find out more at www.ethernetalliance.org • The 2016 Ethernet Roadmap will include a chart on backplanes that would include this project 6 http://www.ethernetalliance.org/ The Fibre Channel Roadmap Doubling and now Quadrupling every few years • Fibre Channel is focused on optics and the 1X/4X paradigm • No longer HDD Interface • “The Fibre Channel Roadmap” will be released in October and includes: ‒ Physical maps like the 2015 Ethernet Roadmap ‒ Electronic version soon at www.fibrechannel.org/roadmap.html ‒ White paper 7 http://www.fibrechannel.org/roadmap.html SAS Roadmap SCSI Trade Association (STA) has this roadmap • SAS has doubled data rates like Fibre Channel for over a decade • 12G SAS shipping now and 24G SAS expected in 2018 ‪SOURCE: HTTP://WWW.SCSITA.ORG/LIBRARY/2011/06/SERIAL-ATTACHED-SCSI-MASTER-ROADMAP.HTML 8 10G 5G 0 S p e e d ( b /s ) USB Roadmap • USB HDD are very popular in consumer space • USB 3.1 operating at 10Gb/s 9 12 Mb/s 1995 480 Mb/s 2000 5 Gb/s 2008 1990 2000 2010 2020 PCIe Roadmap • PCIe hard disk drives and Solid State Drives (SSDs) are being sold today • X8/12/16/32 not shown 10 100G 75G 50G 25G 0 S p e e d ( b /s ) 2003 PCIe 1.0 2Gb/s/Lane X4 = 8G 2000 2010 2020 2007 PCIe 2.0 4 Gb/s/Lane X4 = 16G 2010 PCIe 3.0 7.877 Gb/s/Lane X4 = 31.5G 2017 PCIe 4.0 15.754 Gb/s/Lane X4 = 63G 4 Lane Single Lane PCIe Drive SATA Roadmap • Serial Advanced Technology Attachment (SATA) has this roadmap that is similar to SAS 11 Data Rate SATA 1.0 1.5 Gb/s SATA 2.5 3 Gb/s SATA 3.0 6 Gb/s Aggregate Disk Drive Interface Roadmap 12 100G 10G 1G 0.1G S p e e d ( b /s ) 1990 2000 2010 2020 Ethernet Fibre Channel SAS PCIe USB SATA This Study Group More Detail on Next Page Aggregate Disk Drive Interface Roadmap New Standard about a decade behind the competition 13 10G 5G 2.5G 1G S p e e d ( b /s ) 1990 2000 2010 2020 Ethernet Fibre Channel SAS PCIe USB SATA This Study Group 802.3ap 3G SAS and SATA 6G SAS and SATA >10 Years • Comparable technologies were defined a decade ago ‒ SAS mainly using 6G specifications today • More competition is growing with PCIe • Should we fracture the market between GbE and 10GbE into 2 more speeds?

Yes Explanation: The issue here is the use of USB device class and attributes these are defined by the USB consortium.

This does not premolar an UPAMD adapter to have a separate USB port to an external micro USB cable then to your phone.

This does not premolar an UPAMD adapter to have a separate USB port to an external micro USB cable then to your phone.

I will look for the selection of UPAMD cables next to the USB cables. 

Yes Explanation: The issue here is the use of USB device class and attributes these are defined by the USB consortium.

Yes Explanation: The issue here is the use of USB device class and attributes these are defined by the USB consortium.

Yes Explanation: The issue here is the use of USB device class and attributes these are defined by the USB   consortium.