Hello to all TTT members for MLO BA procedures,   I have posted document 11-20/1275 which provides draft text for MLO BA procedures.  

[STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 8 and August 15th Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 8 and August 15th now posted - 11-22/1275 To : STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 8 and August 15th now posted - 11-22/1275 From : Jon Rosdahl < jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx > Date : Fri, 19 Aug 2022 17:01:17 -0600 --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- Greetings, The Minutes for the 802.11 REVme (TGme) telecons for August 8 and August 15th now posted -  : August 8th: 11-22/1275r0 (focused on SEC CIDs) https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-1275-00-000m-telecon-minutes-for-revme-august-2022.docx and August 15th: 11-22/1275r1 (Focused on MAC CIDs) https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-1275-01-000m-telecon-minutes-for-revme-august-2022.docx Regards, Jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Rosdahl                             Engineer, Senior Staff IEEE 802 Executive Secretary   Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. office: 801-492-4023                   10871 North 5750 West cell:   801-376-6435                    Highland, UT 84003 A Job is only necessary to eat!

Hello to all TTT members for MLO BA procedures,   I have posted document 11-20/1275 which provides draft text for MLO BA procedures.  

Hello to all TTT members for MLO BA procedures,   I have posted document 11-20/1275 which provides draft text for MLO BA procedures.  

Hello to all TTT members for MLO BA procedures,   I have posted document 11-20/1275 which provides draft text for MLO BA procedures.  

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1275-00-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ba-procedure.docx   Could you please review and let me know if you have any inputs?  

Hello to all TTT members for MLO BA procedures,   I have posted document 11-20/1275 which provides draft text for MLO BA procedures.  

(lambda(nm) - 1310) dBRMS Spectral width (nm) Minimum OMA then enforce the predicted penalties with TDP test vary with wavelength, representing attenuation change define TDP per wavelength Or follow 10GBASE-E: Specify (OMA TDP) Don't allow TDP>3.2, don't credit for TDP<1.0 Triple Trade Off alternatives for 10GBASE-L 5 D4.1 modified: TTO for short wavelengths only Up to 0.05 nm 0.05 to 0.1 nm 0.1 to 0.15 nm 0.15 to 0.2 nm Up to 0.05 nm 0.05 to 0.1 nm 0.1 to 0.15 nm 0.15 to 0.2 nm 1260 to 1265 -3.7 -3.6 -3.4 -3.2 2.5 2.6 2.8 3.0 1265 to 1270 -3.7 -3.6 -3.5 -3.3 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.9 1270 to 1275 -3.7 -3.7 -3.6 -3.4 2.6 2.6 2.7 2.9 1275 to 1280 -3.7 -3.7 -3.6 -3.5 2.6 2.6 2.7 2.8 1280 to 1285 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.7 1285 to 1290 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.7 1290 to 1295 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 1295 to 1300 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 1300 to 1305 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1305 to 1310 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1310 to 1315 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1315 to 1320 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1320 to 1325 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1325 to 1330 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1330 to 1335 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1335 to 1340 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1340 to 1345 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1345 to 1350 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1350 to 1355 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 1355 to 1360 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 -3.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 Minimum OMA at any wavelength -3.7 2.7 Minimum OMA Center Wavelength (nm) RMS Spectral width (nm) Max.

.= 0.025 Link Power Budget and Penalties (10GbE) 1310 nm Description 1 2 3 4 5 6 Units Operating Distance (km) 10 10 10 10 10 10 km Zero Dispersion Wavelength (nm) 1300 1324 1324 1324 1324 1324 MHz km Wavelength (nm) 1355 1290 1275 1265 1255 1238 nm Link Power Budget (dB) 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 dB Channel Insertion Loss 6.77 7.04 7.12 7.17 7.22 7.32 dB Link Power Penalties 2.19 2.27 2.19 2.17 2.08 2.00 dB Unallocated Margin 1.05 0.69 0.69 0.66 0.70 0.69 dB Pisi 1.63 1.71 1.63 1.61 1.54 1.46 dB Transmit Characteristics (10GbE) Description Units Signal Speed 10.313 10.313 10.313 10.313 10.313 10.313 Gbd Wavelength (nm) 1355 1290 1275 1265 1255 1238 nm Trise / Tfall (20%-80%) 40 40 40 40 40 40 ps RMS Spectral Width (max) 0.25 0.40 0.25 0.20 0.15 0.10 nm 046 Spreadsheet Same values as the “3pmd” spreadsheet on the IEEE website Column 2 matches the “3pmd” spreadsheet IEEE 802.3 Plenary - November 6-9, 2000 6 of 12 1290 1275 1265 1255 1238 0.00 0.05 0.10 0.15 0.20 0.25 0.30 0.35 0.40 0.45 1230 1240 1250 1260 1270 1280 1290 1300 Wavelength (nm) S p ec tr al W id th , R M S H W ( n m ) Link Model Simulations Graph of Wavelength and RMS Widths from Columns 2-6 IEEE 802.3 Plenary - November 6-9, 2000 7 of 12 What About the 1240-1265nm Region?

Could you please replace 1275 with 1270 – MLO Power-save procedures?  

Could you please replace 1275 with 1270 – MLO Power-save procedures?  

SUBED1=STDS-802-11-TGM&A=1 Follow-Ups : Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Proposed resolution to CID 1651 From: Mark Rison Prev by Date: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Proposed resolution to CID 1651 Next by Date: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11me/D1.0 CID 1555 (SPP and S1G) Previous by thread: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 8 and August 15th now posted - 11-22/1275 Next by thread: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Proposed resolution to CID 1651 Index(es): Date Thread

Here is the link to the document. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1275-00-0hew-teleconference-minutes-20131009.docx Please let me know of any comments and corrections.

[STDS-802-11] Minutes from the HEW SG Teleconference on 2013.10.30 uploa Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11] Minutes from the HEW SG Teleconference on 2013.10.30 uploaded To : STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11] Minutes from the HEW SG Teleconference on 2013.10.30 uploaded From : Yasuhiko Inoue < inoue.yasuhiko@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date : Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:28:22 +0900 --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector --- Dear all, I have uploaded the minutes from the HEW SG teleconference on October 30th, 2013 to the server. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1303-00-0hew-teleconference-minutes-20131030.docx I also updated the minutes from the previous HEW SG teleconference and put it on the server. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/13/11-13-1275-01-0hew-teleconference-minutes-20131009.docx Please let me know of any corrections.

[STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 29 - 11-22/1275r2 Thread Links Date Links Thread Prev Thread Next Thread Index Date Prev Date Next Date Index [STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 29 - 11-22/1275r2 To : STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject : [STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 29 - 11-22/1275r2 From : Jon Rosdahl < jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx > Date : Mon, 29 Aug 2022 15:24:44 -0600 --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- Greetings, The Minutes for the 802.11 REVme (TGme) telecons for August29th are posted: 11-22/1275r2: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-1275-02-000m-telecon-minutes-for-revme-august-2022.docx Regards, Jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Rosdahl                             Engineer, Senior Staff IEEE 802 Executive Secretary   Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. office: 801-492-4023                   10871 North 5750 West cell:   801-376-6435                    Highland, UT 84003 A Job is only necessary to eat!

These mode delays approximate a manufacturing distribution, just as was done for the TIA simulations of OM3 fiber (850nm 10GbE 300m) described in JLT Vol. 21 May 2003 pp.1256-1275, and pp.1242-55.

1270: PDT-MAC-MLO-Power-save-Procedures – will be posting r1 shortly 1274: PDT-MAC-MLO-ML-IE-Structure – will be posting r1 shortly 1275: PDT-MAC-MLO-BA-Procedure   Regards, Abhi   From: Abhishek Patil Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:45 PM To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] D0.1 Spec Text Preparation   CAUTION : This email originated from outside of the organization.

These mode delays approximate a manufacturing distribution, just as was done for the TIA simulations of OM3 fiber (850nm 10GbE 300m) described in JLT Vol. 21 May 2003 pp.1256-1275, and pp.1242-55.

Lightwave Technology, Vol. 21 No. 5, May 2003 p.1256-1275.

SUBED1=STDS-802-11-TGBE&A=1 Attachment: 11-20-1275-03-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ba-procedure_Ming.docx Description: 11-20-1275-03-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ba-procedure_Ming.docx Follow-Ups : Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted From: Abhishek Patil References : [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted From: Alfred Asterjadhi Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted From: Abhishek Patil Prev by Date: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT-MAC-MLO-TID-link-mapping/link management: Default mode and link enablement Next by Date: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] about A3 reused for ML address(672R2) Previous by thread: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted Next by thread: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted Index(es): Date Thread

SUBED1=STDS-802-11-TGM&A=1 References : Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11me/D1.0 CID 1555 (SPP and S1G) From: Mark Rison Prev by Date: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Proposed resolution to CID 1651 Next by Date: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 8 and August 15th now posted - 11-22/1275 Previous by thread: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11me/D1.0 CID 1555 (SPP and S1G) Next by thread: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Minutes for REVme (TGme) for August 8 and August 15th now posted - 11-22/1275 Index(es): Date Thread

SUBED1=STDS-802-11-TGBE&A=1 Attachment: 11-20-1275-03-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ba-procedure_Ming - Abhi.docx Description: 11-20-1275-03-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ba-procedure_Ming - Abhi.docx References : [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted From: Alfred Asterjadhi Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted From: Abhishek Patil [STDS-802-11-TGBE] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted From: Ganming (Ming) Prev by Date: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT PHY: MU-MIMO Next by Date: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT PHY: MU-MIMO Previous by thread: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted Next by thread: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [09/02/2020 and 09/03/2020]: Agenda Posted Index(es): Date Thread

Could you please replace 1275 with 1270 – MLO Power-save procedures?  

Technical & Economic Feasibility of 10km SMF 100GE Transceivers 100GE WDM Grid Observations IEEE 802.3 Higher Speed Study Group Fiber Optic Ad Hoc 4 April 2007 Chris Cole chris.cole@finisar.com 24 April 20074 April 2007 Outline ■ Proposed Simplifications to 100GE Alternatives Table Entries ■ Existing WDM Grid Alternatives ■ Possible New WDM Grid Alternative 34 April 20074 April 2007 Reach (Technical) Feasibility of 100GE Alternatives SMF 10km 1310nm 40km 1310nm 10km 1550nm 40km 1550nm 10x10G DML yes yes + OA yes maybe + OA 10x10G ML yes yes + OA yes yes + OA 5x20G / 4x25G DML yes yes + OA maybe maybe + DC 5x20G / 4x25G ML yes yes + OA yes yes + DC 2x50G DQPSK I/Q ML yes yes + OA + DC yes + DC yes + DC 1x100G TDM ML yes + OA yes + OA + DC yes + OA + DC yes + OA + DC OA = Optical Amplification, DC = Dispersion Compensation Green shading designates alternatives under detailed study by Fiber Optic Ad Hoc contributors 44 April 20074 April 2007 Existing WDM Grid Alternatives ■ IEEE 802.3 LX-4 grid ● ~ 1275- 1350nm span (O band) with 4 channels ● 25nm spacing ● 13.4nm width ■ ITU G.694.2 CWDM grid ● ~ 1470 – 1610nm span (O, E, S, C, L band) with 18 channels ● 20nm spacing ● 13nm width ■ ITU G.694.1 DWDM grid ● ~ 1492 – 1612nm span (S, C, L band) from 193.1THz base ● 200, 100, 50, 25, 12.5GHz spacing alternatives ● Application dependent width 54 April 20074 April 2007 Observations on Existing WDM grids ■ CWDM (or LX4) ● Uses un-cooled lasers ○ For 2.5G applications this was estimated to result in ~40% cost savings versus cooled lasers. ● 4 or 5 channel applications span 60nm to 80nm ○ Monolithic laser arrays require complex fabrication processing steps. ■ DWDM ● Uses cooled lasers ● Transport applications have stringent specifications (ex. frequency stability, four wave mixing effect, etc,) which increase cost. 64 April 20074 April 2007 Possible New WDM grid alternative ■ IWDM or iWDM (Intermediate WDM)* ● 400GHz to 800GHz spacing ○ ~2nm to 4nm spacing in the 1310nm band ○ ~10nm span supported by standard monolithic laser array processing ○ Does not impose stringent frequency stability requirements ○ Avoids most non-linear DWDM effects ● Requires cooling or semi-cooling ● Feasible WDM Mux and DeMux structures ■ It is recommended that HSSG FOAC contributors study non-standard WDM grid alternatives to recommend an optimum grid for the 100GE application. * ITU defines a grid as CWDM if it is between 1000GHz to 50nm, and as DWDM if it is under 1000GHz, so strictly speaking the above grid is DWDM.

Commenter CIDs Carlos Cordeiro 1020 Donald Eastlake III 1016, 1017 Peter Ecclesine 1607 Alecsander Eitan 1035, 1036, 1037 Guido Hiertz 1220, 1221, 1223, 1224, 1225, 1227, 1230, 1231, 1232 Carl Kain 1303 Jouni Malinen 1269, 1270, 1275 Stephen McCann 1241, 1242 Hiroyuki Motozuka 1168, 1169, 1170, 1172, 1173, 1174, 1175, 1176, 1177, 1181, 1184, 1185, 1186, 1187, 1178, 1171, 1167 Al Petrick 1617, 1618 Mark Rison 1326, 1383, 1385, 1399, 1409, 1492, 1510, 1514, 1530, 1570, 1575, 1568, 1540, 1531, 1513, 1496, 1355, 1327, 1348, 1380, 1406, 1523 Kazuyubi Sakoda 1251, 1252, 1254, 1253, 1255 Robert Stacey 1077, 1078, 1079, 1093, 1094, 1095, 1119, 1120, 1118, 1099, 1098, 1085, 1083, 1071, 1121, 1129, 1130, 1137 Yunsong Yang 1034 ​ ​Regards, Edward​ To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-11-TGM list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?